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Interview With Fritz Berggren: Revolution or Reform?

Interview With Fritz Berggren: Revolution or Reform?

Q: Fritz, You’re a long time MAGA supporter — have you turned against your President?
A: Yes.

Q: Why?
A: Let’s call it Trump’s treason against us. He left us.
One, he is protecting the Pedo’s and the Epstein Island crowd.
Two, he seems to have abandoned Mass Deportations.
Three, starting a war of choice against Iran.
Four, stabbing MAGA Patriots (Massie, MTG, Joe Kent) in the back.
Five, Allowing a foreign power to control our government.
Like I said, he has abandoned us — he’s the one who turned his back.

Q: Can Trump come back from this? For you? For other MAGA followers?
A: No — these are deliberate policy choices, he has no desire to reverse course. He is counting on the “MAGA” crowd to simply fold and accept his decisions.

Q: What is the MAGA response?
A: Clearly the ballot box is irrelevant. Trump is proof — we elected him but he promotes policies we rejected. We lose our jobs. We go to jail — the J6ers. AntiFa and BLM are given a pass. No deep state arrests. The Pedo’s are protected. Tina Peters remains in prison. We delude ourselves because we say, “but we elected Trump!” Yeah, but obviously that doesn’t matter in this system.

Q: Is there no hope?
A: If God is merciful, the whole system will collapse. Life will be horrible. The guilty will get away with murder, theft, rape and cannibalism — they are now. At some point, Christians will finally rebel and demand White and Christian societies and we will respond with arms against those who have used arms against us. And we will have our lands again.

Q: So, you are advocating violence?
A: Violence is already here. When men are put into chains, dragged through a Kangaroo court, and placed in cages for years on end, that IS violence. When our women are raped and murdered, that IS violence. When our children are kidnapped, raped, tortured, and eaten, that IS violence. When dissidents — those that vocally notice these acts — are put on lists, that IS their justification for more violence. When Whites are called “Racists,” and “Nazi’s,” that IS the preparation of the battle-space to inspire and motivate violence against Whites and Christians. When I drive down a small-town street and see a sign that says “Punch a Nazi is the Face,” that is the advocacy of violence agains us. The violence is already here. And not just here, it’s even worse in England — arrested for silent prayers whole the Moslems take over. New York City is about there, too.

Q: So what is the timeline for a White and Christian response?
A: I think Whites and Christians are still pre-revolutionary. They have not awoken from the mental conditioning they received from schools and Churches that taught them never to be racist or antisemitic. Being pro-White is a greater sin that being a homosexual in most churches. “Hitler,” and “Nazi” and “Antisemitic” are still terms that control them, that bind them, that cause them to cower in silence. Those mental chains must be shattered. But we are making progress.

Q: How does that happen?
A: Two ways. First is what I do — I point out the fact that their freedom lies just on the other side of the fence that says “You can’t be racist or anti-Semitic!” Once that is breached, there will be a tidal-wave of freedom — the freedom to speak out loud, in public. It is beginning. Look at Nick Fuentes. This is the changing of the tide. And that is why there is such a push by the Jews to control all speech — they are panicking.

Q: And the second?
A: I think conditions will continue to worsen until there literally is no choice but to fight or die. “Free speech,” or Truth, are worth dying for because if men will not, or cannot, speak their conscience, then they are neither men nor worthy of freedom. But it takes more pain to get to that point.

And that takes me back to the point of God’s mercy — it has to get a lot worse before it gets better. Otherwise we remain under this system whose goal is the genocide of Whites, and the erasure of any loyalty to Jesus Christ. It is worth the fight. We owe this to our descendants and to our God.

Q: What is your next step?
A: More of the same. Speaking the truth. Nothing can stop that. This is a fight by little people, unknown, not rich, not powerful. My job is recruitment to the cause of our White and Christian race. We can do this. We recognize those who have sided with Satan — we do the very thing that the Apostles did — we raise our voices in defiance against the Jews. Speaking up is the single determining fact in victory. Kinetic action is downstream from belief.

Q: So you do believe in kinetic action?
A: Obviously the government does. I spent fifteen years as a bureaucrat and I was sent to zones of violence and war. Our major industry is war and violence. Am I supposed to renounce the means of U.S. foreign policy? It’s violence — I simply recognize that position. Violence is unavoidable. Go ask President Trump if he renounces violence. The problem is that only Whites and Christians are supposed to publicly renounce violence and others are not. No one expects the FBI to renounce violence. The guy who shot the Weaver wife got promoted, that north Idaho thing decades ago. No one expects Anti-Fa or BLM to renounce violence, rioting, and arson. Someone shot Charlie Kirk and millions of American’s rejoiced. Violence isn’t stopping any time soon in America and I didn’t start any of it.

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Q: Are you prepared, now, to take up arms against the U.S. government?
A: That will be the wrong target. It won’t be the “US Government.” It will be the anti-fa types. It will be the Moslems. It will be a militias of trans-sexuals shooting up churches. It will be assassinations of Charlie Kirks. And I’m not qualified nor interested in military action or leadership — I know nothing about it. I’m the wrong guy on that. So, no, I’m neither prepared nor interested in taking up arms. For me, that would be a waste of time. Won’t happen.

What do the Chinese say? The best method of is not to fight at all. We must get into the minds of people and convince them that the current situation is not only wrong, but that we have an alternative.

My mission is recruitment. Recruitment to the cause of White and Christian nations. My task is to break the mental chains over Whites and Christians that keep them under the control of the forces of evil. It is the breaking of those mental chains that is more important than anything else, for until those are broken, White and Christian nations cannot resurrect. Christians nations ARE the goal of the Great Commission — it is basic Christian duty — for every Christian.

Q: If it is basic Christian duty and doctrine, why isn’t it being done?
A: Christians have been brainwashed into running every idea through a sieve. This mental sieve filters out everything that is “racist, sexist, homophobic, intolerant, divisive, and antisemitic.” Or anti-government — lots of apologists for tyranny love to quote Romans 13. Once you run thoughts through that sieve, very little of worth-while comes out. You end up with churches that are happy-clappy clubs, twelve-step programs, social groups for singles moms, platforms for anti-White and anti-Christian ideas. The Church today is largely in a state of heresy.

Q: Heresy?
A: We need a theological reformation every bit as profound as Martin Luther’s. And I think we are in the midst of it — time will tell. And with theological reformations come political reformation . . . very unsettling times.

Q: I think our conversation is just beginning. Where do we go from here?
A: Go to the past. Look at the Reformation. Look at European wars. Look at any profound intellectual change. Consider the bankruptcy of the European spirit. Change happens. History happens. And this gets dicey. My hope and prayer is that we are worthy of the name Christian and we are worthy of our ancestors. This is not a time for the timid.

Q: Thank you very much.
A: My pleasure. I’m not going anywhere — I have a lot of work — we need a very big army to make this happen. And it will happen.

Q: Just a follow up — aren’t you afraid of drawing attention as a radical?
A: (Laughs) Too late for that. Jeremiah and John and Jesus were threats, too. They got attention. They were on a list. But we have a Monarch. There is no legitimate earthly government that denies the Authority of Jesus Christ and His Law. We are honored to advance His interest on earth, just as they are in heaven

Q: His Law?
A: The Ten Commandments.

Q: We’re going to need a follow up conversation on that. Theocracy?
A: We live under one now, Lucifer’s theocracy. We will over turn it. That is our purpose and our Commission from Jesus Christ.

Poem: The Dream

Poem: The Dream

THE DREAM

I dreamt of a life time of quietness and peace
I dreamt of children learning at home with my friends

Alexander Solzenitsyn told them of evil and power and faith and hope
Charles Dickens told them of beauty and friendship and courage and love
Moses told them of the Creator and his laws and the courage it takes to follow him
Solomon taught my son of honor, and respect, and how to escape liars and thieves
My father Abraham taught them patience and hope and sacrifice
My grandfather Job taught them philosophy, and the peace that comes with humility

I dreamt of a home of art
The towering columns of strength and greatness
The gentle arches of transcendence and beauty
The sunlight hallways of truth
and the open porches of freedom

The order of symmetry and the beauty of graceful curves led my children in
assurance and peace, inspiration and knowledge
The colors made them happy and alive

painted with soft oranges and yellows
the muted reds and greens of fertility
All under the majesty of heaven’s royal blue

I dreamt of a home that spoke through the ages
the questions of Aristotle
the wisdom of Cicero
the rhetoric of Pericles
and the strength of Roman rule

I saw a distant ocean’s rolling swells capped with tufts of frothy white
and knelt in a juicy garden of tomatoes, garlic and jalapenos
I felt the warm breeze of summer moving the limbs of a walnut tree
And my children learned of patience and fruitfulness and work and simplicity

I saw a field with a dog and a child chasing the end of the world in a mysterious new land

I saw heaven, and this was my home

Fritz Berggren
16 January 2002
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