(Fritz Berggren answers question about “White Supremacy” and racism. His controversial blog “bloodandfaith.com” raises many questions.)
Q: White and Christian Nations? Sounds like White Supremacy. Would you like to explain?
A: “White supremacist” is a term of opprobrium invented to put Whites on the defensive, much like the terms “racist,” or “homophobic” are used to morally impugn people. It is a not a term that should be respected — it is a lever, a form of accusation, a moral cudgel used to beat people into submission. I reject that on its face.
Q: Yes, but your website as “bloodandfaith.com” says, explicitly “White and Christian Nations.” That’s provocative, racist even.
A: What is wrong with the idea of Christian nations? The concept of Islamic nations is very important in Arab nations, in Turkey, in Indonesia . . . It would be insulting to most Arab nations to suggest they cannot be explicitly Moslem.
Do people reject the concept of White nations? I don’t see anyone rejecting the concept of a “Palestinian” nation, or a “Jewish nation,” or a Chinese nation. Rejecting the concept of White nations is fundamentally hatred toward the White race. If I said, “It’s OK to be White,” would that also offend you?
Q: Do you reject the idea that non-Whites can be Christian? Doesn’t God love everybody the same?
A: Many non-Whites are Christian . . . the Ethiopian eunuch in the book of Acts comes to mind. Yes, Jesus Christ will have a people from “every tongue, tribe, people, and nation.”
A: I dispute fundamentally the idea that God loves everyone the same: “Jacob I love, Esau I hated,” says the Scripture. Did God love the people who he killed the flood? Did God love the Canaanites whom Joshua was commanded to destroy? Will God’s love be shown on the Judgement Day when most end up in hell? If the answer is “Yes, He loved them the same,” then my response is “well then that it is a mistake to assume that “love” means treating everyone the same. God does not treat every one the same, and he does not love everyone the same.
Q: Should you try to build tolerance and understanding between people?
A: That’s not my mission and that’s not my goal. Look, I love my race. No apologies for that. Moses and the Prophets all felt the same about their own race.
Q: More than other races?
A: Yes. All of them were race loyal to their own people. Saint Paul expressed a willingness to surrender eternal life for the benefit of his own race: “For I could wish that I myself were cursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my people, those of my own race,” Romans 9:3. Jesus Christ said “I only came for the lost sheep of the House of Israel?” Are you going to accuse Jesus Christ of being a racist? If so, that’s simply proof that the term “racist” ought not be taken seriously as a moral value.
Q: Do you believe the White race is superior to other races?
A: Superior in what way? Define superior. Again, people are used to tossing ill-defined accusations in people’s faces in order to put them off guard, to accuse them, to manipulate them. I’ve figured this out and so I’m not controlled by those terms any more. And that angers the people who are used to being in control — they don’t want freedom to catch on out there.
Q: Do you prefer the White race?
A: I prefer my own kin to others. The Berggren family is the greatest family on earth as far as I’m concerned. Alex Jones, you, or Joe Biden may prefer their own families, and they should. I have zero compunction to apologize for this or to couch my message in such a way so as not to offend people who believe “White supremacy” is a moral concept I must reject to their satisfaction when no one can really pin down what it means. It’s purposefully kept vague in order to keep people manipulated and morally leveraged.
Q: Yes, but Hitler was an evil man.
A: I am glad you have such a strict moral code and sense of right and wrong. But I’m not available for people to manipulate just because they can sling out phrases like “racist,” or “White supremacist,” or “Hitler.” It’s silly, really. That makes some angry because they lose control. For others, they have not fully thought through he purpose and meaning of these terms and remain in mental bondage.
A: In a sense, no man — certainly not a White man — can be free as long as he allows himself to controlled by these cudgels of guilt and shame. The terms create a false moral cover for hatred against the White and Christian race, they are levers designed to undermine and destroy us. I feel no need to accommodate that project. In fact, I feel an obligation to resist the genocide my own race. Very few are willing to do this and, unfortunately, fewer still within the Christian Church.
Q: Thank you for you time.
A: Your welcome. I look forward to talking again.
Christian nation” that refuses to be ashamed of our existence.